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Offline Jock

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If I had the coin....
« on: September 07, 2011, 09:31:25 PM »
In our travels we all find bikes that we WISH we could buy..... IF WE HAD THE COIN to do so.

This thread is all about that, for members to post up their finds - bikes must be Vinduro or VMX related of course!

I'm going first with this beautiful 1982 Can Am Qualifier 4.















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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 03:20:26 PM »
Who's next?  ;)

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 11:59:50 PM »
If I had a pic, I would probably have the bike...so without an impromptu search, load and post...

If I had the coin, a '73 RT 450 Ducati Scrambler would be arriving any day now.

All I got is a 250 I milled around at Castella...










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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 12:11:49 AM »
If I had a pic, I would probably have the bike...so without an impromptu search, load and post...

If I had the coin, a '73 RT 450 Ducati Scrambler would be arriving any day now.

All I got is a 250 I milled around at Castella...


How about this...

http://www.earlyyearsofmx.com/images/bikes/ducatiRT450.jpg

And some light reading...

Ducati sprung to life by making a small bicycle engine to transport the war-ravaged Italian citizens. In 1946, the Cucciolo (little puppy) engine was originally sold in a box to be attached to a bicycle. Before WWII, Ducati had produced radio tubes and condensers, but thanks to the Cucciolo’s success, Ducati became a name brand motorcycle manufacturer. By 1954, Ducati was producing 120 bikes a day. Even more momentous in ’54 was the arrival of engineer Fabio Taglioni. Taglioni’s big idea was to control valve float by having the valves positively opened and closed without using valve springs. The main benefit of his desmodromic system was the prevention of valve float. Valve float can cause a catastrophic collision between the piston and valve or, at the very least, create poor valve seal. The desmodromic system eliminates valve float by using dual rocker arms on each valve (one for opening and one for closing the valve). The Ducati 450 R/T was the first and only motocross bike to be outfitted with desmodromic valves.

In 1969 a 350cc Desmo Ducati actually won the Baja 500 piloted by desert ace Doug McClure. Following this success, U.S. importer Berliner Motor Corporation requested a off-road 450cc version of the 350 TSS being sold in Europe to compete against the popular BSA 441 Victor. The 450 R/T (road/trail), as it was called, was built exclusively for the American market and was finished in brite yellow.

Though the engine was quite powerful, the frame was heavy and rigid. The frame would also prove to be poorly designed as the engine was placed too far rearward and coupled with a very short swingarm, the Ducati was difficult to turn. By 1971, four-strokes had fallen out of favor with most off-road riders and the 450 R/T would only be imported into America in that year.


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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 12:19:22 AM »
 ;D  8)
Thanks Jock...will hunt down the pic that didn't show up.

There is usually one on US ebay for about 4-6k, they fetch 9-10k here.... ::)

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 02:12:47 PM »
MZ GE 250, from the early to mid eighties. I don't know why, but something about them appeals to me. I don't even know if they were any good. As far as I can work out not that many were made, and I don't think any ever made it to Australia.









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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »
Do you reckon the Ag style chain guard helped?

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 03:52:59 PM »
The ones on ag bikes do wonders for chain longevity, so I suppose it is a valid concept. After that state my chain was in after Three Bridges it could've used something like that.

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 11:09:17 PM »

     The first Bultaco Matador i had had a fully enclosed chain that was only a 420

     i thought it was a bit Poofy at first but after a few Rides i would not be

     without it at least you could ride all day and not have to adjust the chain

     no O ring chains then..

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 11:24:08 PM »
I don't know why, but something about them appeals to me.
Tex

Are you a coffin tank, radial fin Maico fan too Tex?

I had a very brief ride of a "radical" new firey orange Maico 400 in 1973...frightened the bejeezers outa me, I was 15.



I saw a lot of European brands on grasstrack when I was a little tacker, they all looked very angry bikes with a lot to say. Now the bike pics website is reminiscing headquarters for me some nights...... :o

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 01:43:33 AM »
Noice choice there Tex. I think there was a big story on the MZ brand in one of the issues of VMX. Also there is the Stealing Speed book that did the rounds on the Yamaha IT forum which highlighted the work of Kadden, the defection of Degner to Suzuki and the MZ brand.
  From everything I've read they were pretty good. Way behind the Japs in most things like alot of little bike manufacturers of the time but I can see the attraction. The fact that some bikes, not just MZ's but others with far out their designs or awkward stances and being painted with the ugly stick is what makes them appealing.
  I would have to agree I'd own one. As for the Can Am, never ridden one would love to or own anything with a  Rotax motor.

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 01:53:22 AM »
Auto Husky would be nice:




if I had really deep pockets a TX or TE 510:



I'd honestly be happy with a DT1:



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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 02:12:38 AM »
Les, Les, Les. How did I know you were going to post a pic of a TE510. Back when Husky made real bikes. A gorgeous looking bike with performance to match. I remember the stories you told me about the one your brother owned, Awesome, love the twin pipes too. Yep deep pockets for that one.

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2012, 12:12:54 PM »
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Are you a coffin tank, radial fin Maico fan too Tex?

Sure, why not?  :D

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Re: If I had the coin....
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 12:39:06 AM »
I would have ANOTHER one of these puppies as I'm spewing I ever got rid of the first one
Yamaha 1977 IT400E
Previous rides:
1980 YZ125G
1977 IT400E (wish I never sold it)
1986 TT350
1988 XR600R

Current rides:
1982 PE250Z
2007 GSX1400 (the weapon)